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phosphorescent-naidheachd:

saltsister:

canon-autopsy:

saltsister:

Reasons why i dislike slash shipping in fandoms:

White boys over everything. Every. Single. Time. No time for pocs not even interracial slash. Erasure and villainization of female characters. Especially woc. Using women as props for your white boys fantasy. Faux feminism. Strong women! Needs no love!

I don’t think people realize how important poc/interracial ships are. Slash, femslash, even hetero, yes, hetero. We get so little representation already so excuse me if i don’t appreciate your erasure (hate) of pocs characters/ships to prop your ship.

agreed. this is a problem.

but the problem occurs not because of fans, but because of writers. white men are written interesting, multi-layered, and dynamic. their relaionships (mostly friendships) get the most screen time and focus. white men are usually the fan’s focus because they’re near always the writers’ focus.

with a few exceptions, women are generally used as props by the writers. women of color and people of color in general are shoved in the back seat. representation matters and we desperately need more of it from the writers.

to use sherlock as an example, i don’t think its fans’ fault that few people care about Donovan. i think she’s the only named poc and one of the very few women. even Anderson got a larger role later on than she did! sherlock, john, greg, mycroft, and even anderson are infinitely more fleshed out and that is the problem.

more solid representation of poc, women, and other minorities in media, as actual characters instead of props

while this is partly true  i still feel that most fans have yet to acknowledge and take responsibility of the hate and backlash they themselves contributed to poc characters in fandoms.  writers are to be blamed for poorly written poc characters yes but it does not give fandoms  the excuse to use this as a reasons to justify their hate/dislike towards these characters.

 Also most fandoms does not even acknowledge the problematic writing, their hate is automatically directed to the character just for simply existing especially more so when it threatens their ship. And in this case, the popular ones in fandoms : white hetero and slash ships.

i believe it’s more than a matter of which character has been given more depth and dynamic. because if not how then do you explain the hate directed towards poc characters with strong writing? Characters such as Martha of Doctor Who,  Marie Laveau of AHS, Gwen of Merlin, Jessica Pearson of Suits? 

i just … it’s hard enough to enjoy a show with so few good depictions of minorities but when you are unable to have a safe space to appreciate undervalued and underwritten characters without coming across hate it gets frustrating. 

All of this!

Let’s not forget that fandom will happily create backstories and justifications for their white male faves at the drop of a hat, but refuses to even try to imagine why women, POC, and WOC characters might act the way that they do.

Fandom is happy to ship white male characters that have barely canonically interacted (see: Mycroft/Lestrade, Clint/Coulson (in the MCU), etc.), but eagerly tears down canonical relationships that have been developed onscreen that involve WOC (particularly if they’re black) (see: Arthur/Gwen, Spock/Uhura (Nu!Trek), etc.), and disproportionately demonizes those women. Not to mention the fact that fandom rarely considers shipping POC with their close onscreen friends, and when people do, loudly wonders why “they can’t just be friends” and complains about how the POC character “doesn’t need a love interest” (see: Tony/Rhodey, Ichabod/Abbie, etc.). Compare this to fandom’s treatment of white characters who are close friends, or even siblings (ex: John/Sherlock, Dean/Sam, etc.)!

I don’t deny that the media has a lot of issues and could definitely do with giving POC/WOC/women more focus and development, but that isn’t the entire issue here. Fandom is culpable for its own actions as much as the source material is.

I don’t have anything against white dudeslash in and of itself — I’ve read some excellent stories, I get the draw for shipping certain characters together, and I definitely understand the desire for representation — but as a fanbase/genre in general, it tends to treat characters that aren’t white men very poorly.

I had something to say but this person said it much better than I ever could and hit the nail straight on the head so I copied and bolded for emphasis.  Women are often crushed by fandom, which seems insane since so many fandoms are majority women.  And black women dont stand a damn chance (nor do other non-white women). So there are definitely questions of racism and misogyny that need to, but will probably never, be addressed.

Fandom is happy to ship white male characters that have barely canonically interacted (see: Mycroft/Lestrade, Clint/Coulson (in the MCU), etc.), but eagerly tears down canonical relationships that have been developed onscreen that involve WOC (particularly if they’re black) (see: Arthur/Gwen, Spock/Uhura (Nu!Trek), etc.), and disproportionately demonizes those women. Not to mention the fact that fandom rarely considers shipping POC with their close onscreen friends, and when people do, loudly wonders why “they can’t just be friends” and complains about how the POC character “doesn’t need a love interest” (see: Tony/Rhodey, Ichabod/Abbie, etc.). Compare this to fandom’s treatment of white characters who are close friends, or even siblings (ex: John/Sherlock, Dean/Sam, etc.)!

Jul 7

blackgirlnerds:

the-goddamazon:

"How The Fandom Made Me Hate That Thing I Used To Love" A Memoir

Sigh, sometimes, yes. this.

Jul 7

lintu91:

'not ALL fandom'

sailortentacle:

wregular:

Avoiding fandom drama like

How in the world have I never seen this post before?

sailortentacle:

wregular:

Avoiding fandom drama like

How in the world have I never seen this post before?

221btimelordette:

I was initially planning on being a casual fan, but then I thought, why not just let it consume my soul instead? 

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My parents warned me about drugs in little baggies but nobody warned me about the addiction that came in the form of TV Shows, books, and movies. The addiction that makes you crave for well-written works that make your heart race, keep you hot and bothered, and, more often than not, break your heart. The addiction that keeps you up ‘til the wee hours of the morning because you keep telling yourself, “just one more”. No one gives you a heads up. You just start to obsess over fictional characters and their love stories. They don’t call them hallucinations, they call them “headcanons”. I didn’t know it was going to, simultaneously, make my life and also destroy it.

- "Fandoms, Fanfiction, and All That Comes With It" (via productofanolympianorgy)

May 9
purselover2:

Oh my God. I just spit water everywhere. This is so funny.

purselover2:

Oh my God. I just spit water everywhere. This is so funny.

May 8

queenjeanne:

Hey here’s an idea how about we stop bargaining one character for another? How about we stop arguing who deserves to stay on the show more? How about we realize that they’ve played the “one agent is not gonna make it” card for about eight years now and the odds of them actually killing off a character are incredibly slim (I think pagetvbrewster actually has a great post on that)? How about we wish that all the characters would be safe and stay in the BAU (and for once their recovery would be written well dammit) and shit? How about we stop being insensitive and unbelievably rude to the actors the characters and their fans? How about we all act civilized for once? How about that? 

May 7

The fandom question thingie should have at least 2 questions about secondary characters.  I feel no one is going to be able to know about my Greg Brock love or how much Percy’s death stung.

Apr 1

Fandoms reminder

phantomas67:

Actor/actress: not the same as their character
Acting: a job
Fans investment: invaluable/unvalued
Actor/actress: their public persona not the same as their private self
Storylines very much dictated by other than integrity/continuity/originality